Cessna L19 fatal stall in a forest

What happens in this video ?

This is the video of a Cessna L-19E single-engine light plane that crashed high in the Rockies of Colorado on Aug. 10th, 1984. Both the pilot and the passenger were killed. The wreckage was found 3 years later. Inside the wreckage, investigators discovered a camera that has entirely recorded the accident.
The problem was that the pilot was flying into what can be clearly seen as gradually ever-ascending terrain altitude, and quickly exceeded the airplane’s effective “service ceiling” – the point at which a plane cannot maintain at least a minimum safe rate of climb – He made a moderately steep turn to the right (in excess of 45 to 50 degrees angle of bank) in an attempt to turn around quickly. The plane lost considerable lift and initially stalls twice; then on the 3rd stall (with the stall warning horn blaring in the background), it entered into a spin and flips upside down and the plane, flipping over on it’s back, plunges straight down through the trees.
This video is being submitted by John Youngs for the purpose of showing new, fledgling private pilots the dangers of flying into high-density altitude situations without careful pre-flight planning and/or flight training into areas of mountainous terrain, along with the obvious lessons to be learned from this tragedy.

Comments

Clay
Texarkana

(Usa)
Has anyone (could anyone) simulate(d) a right crab toward the right ridgeline, followed by gentle left turn? I know this guy made really bad choices but by the time this video picks up—45 seconds or so from crash—he’s already panicking. He became aware of the error maybe 10 seconds earlier. If he’d acted immediately to move right without spilling his air, he might have been able to make it around to the left. Once he passed halfway in the turn the ground would be sloping away, and he could steepen the turn a bit if necessary, using favorable ground slope to maintain speed and consequently, lift. Tragic situation but not uncommon.
2nd March, 2023
Big leopard
If he had managed to turn the plane in the direction of one of the two clearings there, the crash might have been survivable...
24th November, 2020
Screddy Lee
I watched the video in its entirety, then found the NTSB crash report and duplicated all of the data (time of day, time of year, temperature, barometer, dew point, etc.) into Flight Simulator for the exact same location with the exact same plane and the exact same path. The exact same results were encountered: reluctance to lift off and climb, the constant need to trade climb rate for speed, finally unable to get either. Made same sharp turn at the same location, got same results. What's perplexing about this crash is that the crash site was very close to a well-used trailhead.
15th September, 2013
joe
Bigtown

(Usa)
he might not have been leaning out the engine as he got higher resulting in less power/lift. also i don't think the steep turn was necessary, he probably just freaked
18th December, 2010
Victor
Edmond, Ok

(Usa)
Whether or not this pilot was a "good" pilot doesn't really matter. This is a perfect example of not doing proper weight, ballance, and performance calculations BEFORE takeoff. Deciding to turn "into" the mount was the last really poor decision on behalf this pilot and "Ronnie" payed the price. NEVER EVER fly without first doing weight, balance and performance calculations and getting a weather brief. ANY good pilot knows this. This is basic Private Pilot 101 stuff - this pilot was careless.
9th December, 2010
Austin
Hard to tell but looked like he had plenty of room for a 30* LEFT turn?
28th September, 2010
dingoklectos
(Usa)
i don't know what the guy said about 'laws of physics unforgiving to the best pilots'...well from what i see in the video, the pilot was not really a 'best' pilot. him not knowing the terrain area itself gives wrong signals..steep bank, etc
10th December, 2009
John Youngs
Tacoma, Wa

(Usa)
Alexis Park Inn Videos (Google it, then click on "general aviation") has the FULL-LENGTH (200-MB file - it'll take you approx. 12 min. to download) 6-1/2 minute video of this in WMV format.
24th May, 2009
John Youngs
Tacoma, Wa

(Usa)
This video won't play for some as it's an "AVI" file; not a WMV format. Go to "C/NET.com" and download "VLC Player" for FREE. It's a broad-band player that will play almost ALL videos. "Alexis Park Inn Vi
24th May, 2009
hamerhead
Bellingham

(Usa)
This video will not play only audio along with a few others
17th May, 2009
Carl Hackert
Saratoga Springs, Ny

(Usa)
Thank you for submitting this sad and sobering video which dramatically demonstrates what can happen to the best pilots. They were enjoying a beautiful flight while being lulled into a no-win situation - the laws of physics are unforgiving.
13th May, 2009
John Youngs
Tacoma, Wa

(Usa)
The reason for the 3 year disappearance of this wreck was because the plane's fuselage landed upside down and buried the ELT antenna in the ground, denying rescue aircraft and satellites it's signal.
13th May, 2009